Illinois vs. August Spies et al. trial transcript no. 1 Direct examination by Mr. Salomon. Cross-examination by Mr. Ingham. Testified on behalf of the Defense, Spies, August et al. Testified as to Harry Gilmer's general reputation for truth and veracity. Testified on various topics (page numbers provide a partial guide): Gilmer, Harry (vol.M 37).
Testimony of Mary Grubb, 1886 Aug. 5.
Volume M, 37-40, 4 p.
Grubb, Mary.
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MARY GRUBB,
a witness called and sworn on behalf of the defendants, was examined in chief by Mr. Salomon, and testified as follows:
Q What is your name?
A Mary Grubb.
Q Where do you reside?
A 22 North Ann street.
Q Are you a married woman?
A Yes.
Q Have a family?
A Yes.
Q How many children?
A Six children.
Q Are you acquainted with one Harry L. Gilmer?
A Yes.
Q Did he ever live in your house?
A Yes sir.
Q Do you know his general reputation for truth and veracity, among the people where he has resided---that is what people say about him, as to whether he can be believed or not---do you know that?
A Only as a thing around the house.
Q What they say about him, you know that?
A Yes sir.
Mr. Ingham: what people generally say about him?
The Witness: Very bad.
Mr. Salomon: Q His reputation is very bad?
A Yes sir.
Q Would you believe him under oath?
A No sir.
Q He has lived in your house?
A Yes sir.
Cross Examination by
Mr. Ingham.
Q Where do you live?
A 22 North Ann street.
Q Where did you know Gilmer?
A In our house.
Q When?
A He came to live with us in May.
Q May of what year?
A This year.
Q How long did he live with you?
A From six weeks to two months.
Q When did he leave your house?
A I don't know the day of the month. It was the day the First Congregational Church went to a picnic.
Q How long ago was that?
A That was the end of June.
Q Which end of June?
A I can't tell you the day of the month.
Q The first or last of the month?
A It was the end of the month.
Q You don't know which end?
A I don't know the day of the month.
Q You think he was with you about two months?
A About two months.
Q You never heard anybody say anything about him except in your house?
A No sir.
Q Had any trouble with him?
A No sir, never had any trouble with him.
Q You don't know how long ago he left?
A Well, I can't tell you the day of the month.
Q Who did you first tell that you knew anything about Mr. Gilmer?
A I believe it was a reporter that called to see me.
Q Do you know who the reporter was?
A No sir, I don't know.
Q A gentleman called to see you and told you he w s a reporter?
A Yes sir.
Q Didn't give you his name?
A Didn't give me his name.
Q When did you first see Salomon?
A This morning.
Q The first time you ever saw him?
A Yes.
Q Do you know who took your name to Mr. Salomon?
A No sir, I do not.
Q You don't know whether the reporter did it or not?
A No sir.
Q You never saw any interview with you published in the papers, did you?
A No sir.
Mr. Salomon: Q You say that he left the day of the First Congregational Church picnic?
A Yes sir.
Q Were you at home that day?
A No sir, we were out.
Q While you were out, and when you came back Mr. Gilmer was gone?
A Yes.
Q Are you a member of the Congregational Church?
A No sir, I am not a member, but my children go there.
Q They attend there?
A Yes sir.
Mr. Ingham: Q What is your husband's name?
A Thomas Grubb.
Q Where does he live?
A 22 North Ann street.
Q What is his business?
A He is a mill stone miller.
Q Where is he working now?
A He is at work for Mr. White down town.
Q You don't know what building?
A For Mr. White.