Direct examination by Mr. Zeisler. Cross-examination by Mr. Ingham. Testified on behalf of the Defense, Spies, August et al.

Kept a saloon at 888 Clybourn Avenue. He saw Michael Schwab at his saloon after nine p.m. on May 4, 1886. Testified on various topics (page numbers provide a partial guide): Schwab, Michael (vol.L 544).

A WITNESS CALLED AND SWORN ON BEHALF OF THE DEFENDANTS, BEING EXAMINED IN CHIEF BY MR. ZEISLER, AND TESTIFIED AS FOLLOWS:

Q WHAT IS YOUR NAME?

A WILLIAM RADTKE.

Q WHAT IS YOUR BUSINESS?

A KEEP A SALOON.

Q WHERE?

A 888 CLYBOURNE AVENUE.

Q WHERE WERE YOU ON MAY 4TH?

A KEEPING A SALOON ON NORTH HALSTED.

Q DO YOU REMEMBER THE NIGHT OF MAY 4TH?

A YES SIR.

Q DO YOU REMEMBER WHETHER YOU SAW MR. SCHWAB ON THAT NIGHT?

A I SAW MR. SCHWAB IN MY SALOON.

Q WHERE?

A IT WAS MAY.

Q WHERE WAS YOUR SALOON?

A 888 CLYBOURNE AVENUE.

Q WHAT TIME WAS IT WHEN YOU SAW MR. SCHWAB THERE?

A IT WAS 15 OR 20 MINUTES AFTER NINE.

Q DO YOU REMEMBER WHETHER YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATION WITH HIM?

A NO SIR, NOT BEFORE.

Q I MEAN ON THAT OCCASION WHEN HE COME THERE INTO YOUR SALOON, DID YOU HAVE ANY CONVERSATION WITH HIM?

A YES SIR.

Q WHAT WAS THE CONVERSATION?

OBJECTED TO AS INCOMPETENT,---A CONVERSATION WITH SCHWAB 888 CLYBOURNE AVENUE 15 MINUTES PAST 9 O'CLOCK ON MAY 4TH

MR. ZEISLER: I WANT TO SHOW WHAT HE WAS THERE FOR.

MR. GRINNELL: THAT WON'T DO.

MR. ZEISLER: IF HE WAS MAKING A SPEECH AT DERRING'S; I CAN

PROVE THAT BY OTHER TESTIMONY.

THE COURT:? I CAN REMEMBER THOMPSON'S TESTIMONY IN REGARD TO SCHWAB.

MR. ZEISLER: GILMER SEEN HIM QUARTER PAST 10 OR TEN O'CLOCK.

MR. HEINEMANN SAW HIM QUARTER PAST EIGHT, BUT MR. GILMER SEEN HIM AT 10 O'CLOCK, AND WAS SURE ABOUT THAT.

MR. INGHAM: WHETHER HE SAW HIM OR NOT, A STATEMENT MADE TO THESE MEN IS NOT COMPETENT EVIDENCE--THE FACT THAT HE IS THERE IS COMPETENT.

THE COURT: THE HOUR WHICH GILMER FIXES IS JUST THE HOUR THAT THE BOMB EXPLODED.

MR. ZEISLER: WE WANT TO SHOW MR. SCHWAB INTENDED TO SPEAK AT A MEETING OF THE STRIKERS AT DEERING'S HARVESTER WORKS, AND THAT HE DID NOT LEAVE THERE UNTIL 20 MINUTES AFTER TEN.

THE COURT: THAT IS THE PLACE TO--888 CLYBOURNE AVENUE.

MR. ZEISLER: 15 MINUTES PAST NINE.

THE COURT: THAT IS MIDWAY BETWEEN THE TIMES AT WHICH THESE TWO WITNESSES HAVE SPOKEN. AND THE FIRST TIME HE WOULD HAVE TIME TO GO FROM THE HAYMARKET, AND THE LAST TIME, HE WOULD HAVE HAD TIME TO GET BACK TO THE HAYMARKET.

MR. INGHAM: ONE OF THOSE WITNESSES HAS SWORN HE SAW THESE MEN AT 10 O'CLOCK; GILMER DIDN'T SWEAR TO ANYTHING OF THE SORT.

THE COURT: IF THE WITNESS DID NOT MENTION ANY PARTICULAR HOUR WHICH HE SAW THEM AT THE HAYMARKET, THEN THIS TESTIMONY WILL BE UTTERLY IMMATERIAL, BECAUSE YOU SAY YOU DON'T DISPUTE THE FACT THAT HE WAS THERE.

MR. ZEISLER: THAT IS TO SAY WE DON'T ADMIT ANYTHING, BUT WE WILL SHOW MR. SCHWAB'S WHEREABOUT ON THAT EVENING.

THE COURT: OF NONE OF THE WITNESSES ON THE PART OF THE PROSECUTION FIX THE TIME AT WHICH HE WAS PRESENT, BUT ONLY SPOKE OF HIS BEING THERE DURING THE EVENING, THEN THIS TESTIMONY IS IMMATERIAL.

MR. ZEISLER: MR. THOMPSON HAS SWORN THAT HE NOT ONLY SAW MR. THOMPSON AND MR. SPIES AT THE ALLEY, WHERE THEY TALKED ABOUT THE NUMBER OF BOMBS WHICH SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO THE OFFICE, BUT HE SAW THEM GO TOGETHER ON RANDOLP STREET, AND COME BACK, AND THAT WAS AFTER HALF PAST EIGHT AT THE TIME MR. SCHWAB LEFT THERE.

THE COURT: I DON'T SUPPOSE THAT IS COMPETENT.

THE WITNESS: I LIKE TO SPEAK GERMAN --- I DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL THOSE WORDS EXACTLY.

MR. ZEISLER: HOW LONG DID MR. SCHWAB STAY IN YOUR SALOON?

A ABOUT TEN MINUTES.

Q WHERE DID HE GO AFTER THAT EVENING?

MR. GRINNELL: HOW COULD HE KNOW THAT?

THE COURT: ASK HIM IF HE WENT.

MR. ZEISLER: Q WHERE DID YOU SEE MR. SCHWAB GO?

A I SEE THAT HE GOES OVER TO THE PRAIRIE AND START UP A SPEECH.

Q DID YOU HEAR HIM SPEAK?

A YES, I HEARD HIM, I WASN'T SO NEAR THAT I COULD UNDERSTAND ALL THE WORDS WHAT HE SAID.

Q HOW LONG DID HE SPEAK THERE?

A ABOUT TWENTY OR TWENTY-FIVE MINUTES?

Q DID YOU SEE HIM AT YOUR SALOON AGAIN THAT NIGHT?

A NO SIR, NOT IN MY SALOON:

Q DID YOU SEE HIM ANYWHERES ELSE THAT NIGHT?

A NO SIR, I HEAR THAT HE WENT ---

Q DID YOU SEE HIM?

A NO SIR.

Q DID YOU SEE A CROWD OF PEOPLE THERE?

A A BIG CROWD.

Q HOW FAR FROM YOUR SALOON WAS IT THAT MR. SCHWAB STOOD WHEN HE MADE HIS SPEECH?

A ABOUT A BLOCK FROM MY SALOON.

Q ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE THERE LISTENING?

A ABOUT THREE OF FOUR THOUSAND.

Q THREE OF FOUR THOUSAND PEOPLE, ALL LISTENING TO MR. SCHAWB?

A YES SIR.

Q WHAT IS YOUR BUSINESS?

A BLACKSMITH.

Q WHAT IS YOUR PRESENT BUSINESS?

A SALOON- KEEPER.

Q HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN IN THE SALOON BUSINESS?

A 2 YEARS.

Q IN THE SAME PLACE?

A NO.

Q WHERE WERE YOU BEFORE YOU WENT TO YOUR PRESENT PLACE?

A I WAS ON THE WEST SIDE, CORNER OF FRONT AND SAGAMON STREET.

Q WHERE ELSE?

A THEN I MOVED OVER TO SEDGEWICK STREET, NEAR NORTH ADAMS.

Q WHERE ELSE HAVE YOU BEEN?

A THEN I MOVED TO NORTH HALSTED STREET, AND STARTED UP ANOTHER SALOON ON NORTH HALSTED.

Q THEN WHERE?

A THEN I STAYED AT HOME AND GO TO MY OFFICE

IN LAKE VIEW, 888 CLYBOURNE AVENUE.

Q WHAT WERE YOU ENGAGED AT BEFORE YOU WENT INTO THE SALOON BUSINESS?

A I AM A BLACKSMITH BY TRADE.

Q WORKING AT THE BLACKSMITH BUSINESS HERE IN THE CITY.

A YES SIR.

Q WHEN?

A I WORKED IN THE CHICAGO ---

Q WHEN I DIDN'T ASK YOU WHERE?

A ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO.

Q DID YOU EVER WORK AT THE ARBEITER ZEITUNG OFFICE?

A NO SIR, I WORKED FOR THE CHICAGO COMPANY.

Q WHEN WAS THAT?

A 2 YEARS AGO

Q HOW LONG HAVE YOU KNOWN SPIES?

A I DON'T KNOW SPIES--I NEVER SEE HIM.

Q HAVE LONG HAVE YOU KNOWN SCHWAB?

A ABOUT A YEAR AGO--I SEE HE COMES OUT SOMETIMES AND SPEAKS IN MY PLACE, I NEVER WAS IN THE PLACE---I JUST OWN THE PLACE.

Q WHERE WAS THE PLACE AT WHICH HE SPOKE?

A THE SAME PLACE WHERE I LIVE NOW, WHERE I KEEP THE SALOON.

Q DID HE SPEAK IN GERMAN?

A I NEVER HEAR HIM SPEAK; I HEARD HE GOES OUT AND SPEAK THERE.